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The Voting System That's Actually Too Good for Politicians to Allow

The Voting System That's Actually Too Good for Politicians to Allow

CGP Grey
7 HN recommenders · discussed 2015–2021
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About this video

CGP Grey explains the Single Transferable Vote, a proportional ranked-ballot system, and why politicians have little incentive to adopt it. It is a short animated explainer of how multi-winner ranked voting works.

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HN's default link for explaining STV in any thread on voting reform, ranked choice or gerrymandering.

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From the Hacker News discussion

CivBase · 2017-12 · strong rec

Gerrymandering is a problem because we have a poor voting system. I'm not sure if a single transferrable vote (STV) is the best system, but it would significantly reduce the benefit of gerrymandering (and probably result in better candidates from both parties). CGP Grey did a great video on STV: [VIDEO]

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LoonyBalloony · 2017-02 · rec

Elections were (IMO) meant to be bloodless revolutions. its just the 1% has captured both primary political parties. Also, the flawed first past the post electoral system discourages competition (IMO to keep it cheaper for the 1% to own the whole process). I'll post some videos from people smarter then me: [LINK] [LINK] [LINK] [VIDEO] [LINK] [LINK]

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orthecreedence · 2017-04 · rec

Support anyone who wants to get rid of FPTP voting and introduce a more representative voting system (ranked choice, for example). Right now, people have to vote for the least of two shitty candidates. Instead, we could vote for the ones who represent us the most without worrying about who will actually win. This won't fix corporate corruption, which is the underlying cause of the attack on net neutrality, but it will certainly make representatives more beholden to their voters. [VIDEO]

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thelasthuman · 2018-11 · rec

Elections are supposed to be bloodless revolutions. If you can't effect change through the electoral system, then the non violent solution is to revolutionize how we vote. Relevant videos (IMO) First Past The Post Voting - [LINK] Range Voting - [LINK] Single Transferable Vote - [VIDEO] Alternative Vote - [LINK] Mixed-Member Proportional Representation - [LINK] Bonus video This video will make you angry - [LINK]

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khr · 2018-12 · rec

erentz was probably referring to the single transferable vote system ( [LINK] ), which uses a ranked ballot in elections and results in relatively proportional representation. CGP grey explains it pretty well: [VIDEO]

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lpolzer · 2019-03 · rec

Now if only they would introduce something like Single Transferable Vote (entertaining CGPGrey video: [VIDEO] ), or another more effective voting system. Probably won't happen though, as it would seriously shake up politics as we know it.

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s_dev · 2019-10 · rec

Ireland uses this appraoch. We call it STV. STV Explained -- [VIDEO] It just a better democracy because it's more representative. It's solves the "wasted vote" problem people have with democracy and why many democracies result in a two party system. This way it ensures your vote is counted and multiple parties exist.

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mtgx · 2015-12 · reference

Multi-winner ranked choice voting would do much more good to the democracy of US than ensuring the Democrat and Republican seats are "fair", and it would also solve the gerrymandering problem as a consequence: [LINK] [VIDEO]

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