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Jordan Peterson debate on the gender pay gap, campus protests and postmodernism

Jordan Peterson debate on the gender pay gap, campus protests and postmodernism

Channel 4 News
5 HN recommenders · discussed 2018–2023
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Channel 4 News's full interview with Jordan Peterson, in which Cathy Newman presses him on the gender pay gap, patriarchy, campus protests and postmodernism. It was widely discussed for its confrontational style.

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HN cites it as the classic example of an interviewer misrepresenting a guest, though opinions on who came out better differ.

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josephg · 2018-01 · strong rec

I think "watch X destroy Y" is just youtube's version of clickbait. I suspect you'll find videos like that tailored to most groups on youtube. I sometimes use them as trailers for longer talks that I might enjoy - although I always feel a little guilty for encouraging this sort of thing. In this case I found their interview to be excellent viewing. She was harsh and honest with him, and hurled most of the standard criticism at Peterson that people talk about. And while doing that she gave him the time and opportunity to respond. And he stayed calm, considered, articulate and entertaining throughout. I don't agree with everything either of them said, but I enjoyed watching that interview immensely - its exactly the sort of thing I want to see more of on youtube and in the public sphere. [VIDEO]

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air7 · 2018-02 · rec

I've recently encounter Jordan Peterson. He speaks very eloquently about topics such as gender differences from (IMO) a rational and scientific point of view. I'm linking an interview with him which I find fascinating: Both for the information he conveys and for the manner in which he manages to remain cool and clear-headed against a very aggressive interviewer. [VIDEO]

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dkoubsky · 2018-03 · rec

Jordan Peterson talked about this in his infamous Cathy Newman interview. I think it's worth a watch: [VIDEO]

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cm2187 · 2018-12 · rec

Well they occasionally debate with each others but aren't supporting the same ideas. They do have in common that they disagree with identity politics, and as you can tell from the name calling on this HN page, this is a topic on which for many there is zero tolerance for any disagreement. Peterson mostly discusses religion (from a philosophical point of view), self-improvement, identity politics. He tends to be more on the conservative side but outside of identity politics doesn't discuss politics that much. His videos are all on his youtube channel [1]. A good way to make your own opinion is to watch the channel 4 interview, which I think is the way many people discovered him [2] Harris is a Democrat, furiously anti-religious and anti-Trump, talks about quite a variety of topics. You can browse through his podcasts [3]. He also doesn't like identity politics and islamist extremism. To get a good idea of his position on a touchy topic, you can try his interview of Charles Murray [4], which is very interesting and I think is a good example of how a relatively balanced point of view can get unfairly attacked. I am less familiar with Rubin [5]. My understanding is that he is more of a libertarian. Also less familiar with Eric Weinstein (and his brother Bret Weinstein). But you can listen to his discussion on the Intellectual Dark Web with Sam Harris [6]. Harris also has some interesting discussions with Bret Weinstein. [1] [LINK] [2] [VIDEO] [3] [LINK] [4] [LINK] [5] [LINK] [6]

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hombre_fatal · 2023-09 · rec

"So we should X?" is usually a signal that you're about to not track/engage with what someone said. I'm reminded of Cathy Newman's interview of Jordan Peterson where her only retort the whole time was "So you're saying that <something he didn't say>." ( [VIDEO] -- A classic, even if you don't like the guy) For example, they are talking about cows we farm into existence at the tune of 1.5 billion global population, not a few million wild animals.

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hashberry · 2018-01 · reference

Jordan Peterson became famous after a student tried to debate him about his "Nazi followers" and gender pronouns: [LINK] Many people see him as an enemy because of his conservative viewpoints. His most recent debate with Cathy Newman from three days ago: [VIDEO]

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nouveaux · 2018-01 · reference

Jordan Peterson is on record saying he would use preferred pronouns. He is opposed to the law and regulation of these pronouns: [VIDEO] 23m16s is where he states he would use preferred pronouns.

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guitarbill · 2018-01 · reference

BTW, that Spectator article basically just embeds the original interview on Channel 4 uploaded to YouTube: [VIDEO] And, wow, I just watched this and it is horrendously cringeworthy. Seems like the presenter was expecting someone soft in the head (like an MP/politician), and approached the interview in that modern British fashion, which didn't work out well at all. It's really awkward to see somebody be that badly intellectually outclassed, but then it was Channel 4... On the other hand, coming back to OP, there's something encouraging about a critical thinker having "star appeal". I think that's the best way to describe Dr Peterson, as you don't have to agree with him, but it is easy to follow his lucid trains-of-thought, and he is at least consistent.

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