
Using ground relays with Starlink
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Mark Handley of UCL explains, with simulation visualizations, how early Starlink satellites without inter-satellite links could still give low-latency wide-area communication by hopping via ground relays. He shows it can beat fibre on many long paths.
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Cited in Starlink latency debates as a clear visual analysis showing sub-100ms latency is plausible even without inter-satellite links.
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From the Hacker News discussion
You don't need inter-satellite links for low latency, as Mark Handley has elegantly pointed out in his incredible video. I don't think internet access will amount to even 50% of the revenue of Starlink. [VIDEO]
Read original comment ↗I would highly recommend the video linked from this article: [VIDEO] It's a simulation of the various ways in which the Starlink network could be arranged to route between satellites and ground stations; very detailed and super interesting.
Read original comment ↗This [1] is a good youtube explanation of how a hybrid between Starlink and ground stations could still improve connectivity: [1] [VIDEO]
Read original comment ↗If you want a really great visualization and latency estimates for starlink check out the models and videos this guy came up with: [LINK] [VIDEO] The comment from the FCC about it not accounting for "processing [&] routing" is kindof nonsense on its face, those are not novel problems they're already done by ever other router and switch, including several other satellite networks.
Read original comment ↗The orbital planes top parts are all up there at high latitudes. The circle you are seeing is actually made up of several different orbital planes that swoop down toward/past the equator and then up/down to 60 degrees N/S. Seeing them move will make it clearer. Here’s an awesome visual explanation with a ton of other cool info: [VIDEO]
Read original comment ↗A ground station doesn't have to actually be on the ground. They could park a boat in the ocean between London and NYC with equipment to act as a repeater. This YouTube video (along with others on this channel) does a good job of explaining how this could work. [ [VIDEO] ]
Read original comment ↗These first satellites don't have the free-space lasers I modelled in that paper, but my simulations show they can still beat fibre on many paths without inter-satellite links, by relaying via groundstations: [VIDEO] Later satellites will have inter-satellite links, but probably not till near the end of this year, and most of the first phase will already be deployed by then.
Read original comment ↗Elon Musk has stated that until they have inter-satellite laser links deployed, they can get wide area low latency communications by relaying via ground stations at a high slant angle. I built a simulator and ran an analysis of this, and actually it works pretty well. My video analysing all this is here: [VIDEO]
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